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The way I have been taking my "game" lately, or at least been moving it, I haven't focused as much on the community as I used to.
It's funny how something so petty can be such a huge hinderance yet also be good, all at the same time.
If there were no community, I would be out making "friends" with people that enjoy doing the same stuff as I. Making videos/Acting/ photography. Playing paintball an getting on a team. Traveling. Figuring out a way to start a business.
In most ways the community is good, but in the area of progression, unless you've made it your lifes work, and are getting paid to help guys navigate through it, it really is a black hole.
A black hole riped with asshole wanna-be's, mediocrity, and socially stupid people that remind me of crabs most often times.
After all, that is WHY the community exists in the first place.
I am greatful for the community as it has helped me a ton. It has condensed all the information that "gurus" pioneered social dynamics with, and for that its value is great. But some people may be just as well off without the community.
Honestly, if there were no community, I would probably be happier with myself in general, BUT I like helping people more, and it is for that reason I am still in it. I feel I may yet be able to do good.
Very good question.
On the flip side I think without the community there are certain people that would push themselves harder to achieve success in other areas of their life. Like get a better job, a nicer car/apartment so that they can get women. Some people.
That sense of comfort, of knowing, is very important. It calms you down in way. You're not frustrated knowing that there are available attractive women out there for the taking. but for certain people,like myself it does make you lazy, in going after other things in your life. I think it has to do with your sex drive being quieted a bit. Idk. But w/o the community I would have been working at some other aspect in my life that would indirectly make women more attracted to me.
I also believe at the bars, I would just stand around with my friends and watch the girls walk by instead of stopping them. I also believe I wouldn't have as many female friends as I do now.
You can thank Neil Strauss for breaking the community out. I just hope the community isn't even more "leaked" out.
The thing about the community though, most of my friends say "That shit doesn't work". But, it does.
After finding the community, I have really identified with myself. I know much more about myself then ever before. I am glad my roommate gave me the black book called "The Game".
THAT WOULD BE SCARY AS FUCK THOUGH. I'd probably be with some ugly chick and if not I'd want to get married to the chick cute chick im with.
It's all too easy to spend hours reading the latest ramblings of you or Sinn, or TD or get pulled into the drama of that other tool who always hates on RSD.
We're all really naturals anyway, so I'd just go out on an insane rampage, hit up every girl in the club or wherever, probably get blown out a few times but whatever. Then at the same time, at least I wouldn't be so goddamn analytical about every single human interaction I have these days. not necessarily always a bad thing... it's swings and rounsabouts
Or something like that
-Michael
Here is a review of my results: Before 'Game' two girlfriends, 7 then 8(both end horribly) and could make out with smoking hottie on the odd occasion. My tactic: sacrifice friends, whatever, be alpha male at all costs.
On entering 'Community' two kiss closes(both weren't from running game; maybe 20% indirectly at most)
Duration: 2 years
It hasn't been what I hoped for on reading 'The Game' but I have faith.
Good question, yet painful in some circumstances.
I would still get girls from good looks, but would never approach the nicest girls in the club,street, or where ever she is.
I would never push, be as bold unless I was drunk. I look back at the times before the community and realize I did alot of things I do now without knowing what or how come it was working.
I'd just be a good looking,funny, cool materialistic Fuck. Guess thats not that bad, yet I LOVE who I am now. As a wise man once said
"Thats my word".
~Javier Francios~
I'd worry about a lot of stuff more.
I'd be more caring of what people thought, their opinions and such.
I'd follow what was implied to be the right thing to do instead of what worked or was useful.
I'd answer most questions logically.
I'd be a 'fan' of people or become a 'hater'.
Thats what my heart tells me to do.
Run direct game. As in "Hey would you like to spend some time with me cause I would like to share my time with you". Which is really what it always comes back to anyway but now I have the ability to leave the other guys who are "lame gaming" in the dust.
And in my heart of hearts, I am certain it would have ended with a bullet to the head.
The community introduced me to a new way of thinking, and that saved my life. I owe a very large debt to it.
I've tried to picture myself had I not found the community, and I just don't know.
What I gained from the community was more about improving my beliefs in myself than my ability to attract, and have sex with random girls.
Although I was already in the process of trying to learn how to become better with women without the material out there, it did facilitate and expedite my improvements.
But, one thing I would have never learned was how to develope my self-confidence and becoming more Alpha towards myself.
I think I would be struggling and barely keeping my head above water.
And I would not have had the relationships with the beautiful women that I know had it not been for the community.
so I've been out for about 3 weeks now.
* I've enrolled in school.
* I'm dating a suicide girl, who's not just hot but amazing in every sense of the word.
* I'm working out.
* I don't feel like my self worth hangs on the approval of a bunch of guys I don't know.
I do have to thank the community for the valuable information that I got from it...not about picking up girls, about how to be my own man.
So in the end anyone who's thinking about it..take a bootcamp, learn some stuff, but don't make it your life, it will only bring you sorrow.
-Rockstar
Then, I'd take a nice hot Summer's Eve Feminine Wash bubble bath where I could loosen up the follices on my ball sac before I shave against the grain.
After drying off and applying lye to my silken sac I would then retire to the comfort of my bedroom aka the The Pantry (They call it the Pantry because that's where you store spaghetti cans and Angry Mushrooms).
Once inside The Pantry, I'd most likely light up some espresso scented candles, hit play on the Kylie Minogue, download something with "extreme" or "fistalicious" in the title and then proceed to beat my cock like it was a prisoner of war.
I'd be doing that or maybe some soduku.
2 years of studying and applying constantly= 7 girls asking me to prom
the community is FULL OF BULLSHIT. the reason why the community ISN'T self correcting is because it DOESN'T ALLOW FOR CORRECTION.
this is ironic since the Community purports to based upon a 'scientific' approach to the game when in reality, they are no better than a Cosmo gossip column. real truth is NOT THREATENED by critical scrutiny. if anything, critical scrutiny only serves to underline its validity. but this is exactly what the Community lacks and this is exactly why the guys trapped in that cult will never improve beyond a certain point.
at manhood101.com, we've fully exposed the Seduction Community with all of its scam artists and pretenders trying to make a quick buck. this is a BUSINESS. this is what these kids don't understand when they first come in contact with it. it's MARKETING BULLSHIT with classic bullshit marketing strategies. and for that reason,the Community is destined for nothing but failure.
also, it's much harder to teach the guys in the Community how to be attractive because i first have to UNFUCK them from all the bad training in order to introduce any valid teaching to them.
the Community has robbed men of their manhood. my goal is to help men get that back.
all of our info is out in the open for all to see. we don't charge for any of our information unlike these fucking scam artists.
NFM
manhood101.com
i know better. i've already banged a ton of chicks so they really can't claim that i'm bitter and don't know anything. guys have already seen me in the field, i've posted LRs blah blah blah.. i know the deal... so i know this is MARKETING for you, not self-help, not some alturistic view.. i don't mean to step on your business toes as i dont' fault anyone for trying to make a living.. but i do fault guys for taking advantage of other naive kids and not telling them the truth about this bullshit business.. this is why my forum was created in the first place. to expose all the bullshit.
If you are trying to help out, you are going about it the wrong way. Calling people CUNTs and spamming everyone's blog isn't marketing, it's SPAMMING.
you are trying to "help out" by LYING to people. that isn't helping anyone.
i am helping out by TELLING THE TRUTH about your bullshit. unlike you, my forum is wide open to critical review. that's the difference between you and me. you are a cowardly little bitch like every other PUA scam artist. i am not. i am well able to face the critical scrutiny for what i teach.. and like i keep telling you handjobs, i don't SELL my info therefore you're pretty retarded to talk to me about marketing.. you NEED to market you bullshit. because bullshit only works via LYING.
i don't have to lie which is why i don't need to edit out the truth like you do.
SPAM all you want. see if i care :)
WORTHLESS because they have high negative emotion and ZERO content. Running
around spamming people's blogs with nothing of value gets you deleted. If
you brought up sound points and gave sound reasons why people would listen.
Instead you run around saying "bullshit," "scams", "cunts" and other B.S.
There was not ONE SINGLE piece of content in your post, only emotional
drivel. Having a strong feeling about something doesn't make your point
valid.
You have zero logic skills. Your critiques are absolutely worthless and so
are your comments. You have nothing to offer anyone.
You are now muted, spammer.
I think it's quite an interesting subject. Everyone has a different take. Some people would be more in their heads (me) others less. Go over and read it to find out more.
Enjoy.
I think it's quite an interesting subject. Everyone has a different take. Some people would be more in their heads (me) others less. Go over and read it to find out more.
Enjoy.